Are Deer Dogs Really a Problem for Deer Hunting within the South?

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Are Deer Dogs Really a Problem for Deer Hunting within the South?


Past an previous logging gate, a gravel street snakes by means of a younger stand of pine. Meandering by means of the stand, my truck headlights brighten the again wall of a squat tin constructing that appears extra like an previous feed shed than a deer camp. Inside, a makeshift counter holds a logbook for stand places and check-ins. An aerial map of the property (all 3,000 acres of it) and light grip-n-grin pictures of greenbacks from previous seasons adorn the partitions. Every member of the Limestone Creek Hunting Club lives inside 20 minutes of right here, so there’s no want for precise residing quarters. Before this camp home was constructed, members like my grandfather and father simply gathered round an previous burn barrel that marked the official rendezvous level. They would meet there first, then resolve the place to show the canines out every morning of the season.

Limestone Creek is only one camp inside a patchwork of golf equipment which might be scattered across the Pearl River area of south-central Mississippi. And whereas just a few different surrounding camps additionally hunt deer with canines, the Limestone membership has clung to this custom tighter than any, for nearly 50 years. In that half century, their canine hunts have turn out to be one thing of an artwork. The most well-liked mediums are CB radios, beagles, and previous lever weapons or pump-action rifles. The featured artist behind these runs is Tim Orders, one in every of Limestone’s longest tenured members. 

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Orders readies his canines. Adam Moore

On this morning Orders arrives final, in typical trend, together with his blueticks and beagles in tow. While collaring the canines, he directs everybody to particular posts; street crossings, meals plots, and creek bottoms, all named after hunters or the bucks they’d killed there. And whereas the Limestone membership has taken loads of massive bucks through the years, antlers aren’t the explanation its members maintain coming again. The membership’s historical past,  the shared pleasure on profitable hunts, and the enduring camp traditions are what canine hunts are actually all about. 

But for deer hunters who don’t use canines, and aren’t a part of the custom, it’s straightforward to be skeptical whenever you see a battalion of orange vests unfold alongside the roads—probably close to your looking property. While there are many deer canine hunters who perceive boundaries and smart looking etiquette, there are lots who don’t. Those who don’t will certainly run by means of some treestand hunter’s setups. Hunting deer with canines is at the moment authorized in 9 southern states (MS, LA, AR, NC, SC, TN, GA, VA, FL), and when the hounds get to barking it could possibly really feel like the tip of deer season for everybody else.

But simply because canine looking season begins doesn’t imply that treestand hunters ought to hand over. Here’s what all hunters ought to perceive about canine looking, and the way they will adapt their methods to nonetheless achieve success as soon as the hounds hit the woods. 

The Anatomy of a Deer Dog Hunt

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Hunters use GPS collars and radios to trace their canines and talk throughout the hunt. Adam Moore

I hunt a number of areas, each private and non-private, the place deer canine hunters frequent. This yr, I rode shotgun with Orders throughout one in every of his membership’s first hunts of the season to see his deer canine methods and to learn to adapt my very own looking round canine hunters. If you’re unfamiliar with looking deer with canines, right here’s an outline:

  • Hunters resolve the place they plan to show the canines out, often on the fringe of a recognized bedding space. 
  • Other hunters are posted at protected distances round this bedding, overlaying anticipated or historic escape routes.
  • The measurement of the looking crew relies on the dimensions of the realm. Usually anyplace from 5 to twenty hunters work along with no fewer than three hounds on the bottom.
  • Once everybody arrives at their spot, the canine handler turns the hounds out in hopes that they minimize a monitor and leap a deer. 
  • Once the canines minimize a monitor, they start howling. At this level the deer are already at their escape routes, effectively forward of the canines. 
  • With all of the escape routes lined, hunters talk by way of CB radios, hearken to the route of the canine howls, or use gps collars to pinpoint the deer’s journey route. 
  • Because the deer are thus far forward of the canines, they’re sometimes trotting away, not working full velocity as one may assume. 
  • Hunters prepared themselves and anticipate the place the deer will emerge. Sometimes they’ve an opportunity to cease the deer and get off a fast shot. 
  • If deer sneak between two posts or by means of an uncovered space, somebody with a canine field on their automobile speeds to intercept the canines earlier than they depart the property or cross main roads. Best case state of affairs, somebody shoots the deer. Worst case, the hunters don’t catch the canines in time and the canines run the deer for miles throughout different properties.

Understanding How Deer React to Dogs

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Hounds able to go to work. Adam Moore

If your solely expertise with deer canines includes a pack of beagles working by means of your treestand setup, you most likely aren’t a fan of the custom basically. I’ve been on this finish of a canine hunt a number of occasions. It may be irritating. You get up tremendous early, get to your stand earlier than daylight, solely to have a spike run by means of after dawn with a pack of beagles trailing behind. It will really feel like that spot is burned for the day. 

But should you perceive how deer react to canines, you’ll be able to nonetheless achieve success throughout canine season even should you’re not with the deer canine crew.

My grandfather killed his three greatest bucks with canines within the woods. Two of the three had been taken throughout nonetheless hunts when canine hunters on neighboring properties ran deer onto the non-public floor he was looking. He’d hunted with canines earlier than, so he knew the neighbors may run a buck by him. 

I do know a number of different hunters who have a look at canine season as a possibility to present their looking season a spark. Land Smathers is a devoted Mississippi deer hunter who constantly kills mature bucks throughout canine season, usually on public land.

Smathers cited one occasion when he seen {that a} occasion of canine hunters convened close to some public floor he deliberate to hunt that morning. His familiarity with this specific floor gave him an thought of the place the hunters would probably flip the canines out, so he determined to shortly arrange the place he anticipated canines may drive the deer.

“I knew that area, and there was only one place the deer could go if they were bedded there,” he stated. “I slipped down a ridge that dumps into a river bottom where the deer would have to travel or cross the river. Once the dogs cut a track, deer started to funnel through this natural pinch point. I watched several does and a couple small bucks trot through the bottom until a shooter emerged. He came through at 60 yards before I leveled him with a shotgun. The dog hunters weren’t mad that I’d shot him, but they didn’t help me drag him out either.”

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Smathers with a stud whitetail buck. Adam Moore

Smathers he didn’t at all times benefit from canine season all through his looking profession.

“It used to bother me,” he stated. “I’d see a bunch of trucks with dog boxes at the store, and I would turn right around and go home. I finally realized that sulking about it didn’t do any good, so I just learned how to hunt around them, and it’s paid off a few times.” 

Smathers’ expertise and success in the course of canine season has made him extra empathetic towards the observe, and he sees extra looking alternatives, even with canines, as an excellent factor for looking total. Loads of hunters grumble that deer looking with canines ruins the remainder of their season or burns their greatest spots. It can definitely take just a few days for issues to return to “normal” in areas that canines have lined, which is extra problematic should you’re looking small non-public properties. But the reality is, deer canines don’t usually drive deer utterly out of an space.

“We only run dogs during the second season, which typically aligns with our rut,” Orders says. “It seems contrary to most hunters, but that time of year, deer can be so unpredictable anyway. We’ll turn the dogs out in spots where we know a buck is bedded, and if we don’t kill him right away, we’ll give that spot a rest and get a trail cam pic of him back in that same area within a couple days, if not sooner.”

Orders famous that that is very true throughout the lockdown part of the rut, or if there’s a sizzling doe within the space.

“If the dogs split up a buck and doe, he’ll return shortly to find her again,” Orders says. He additionally isn’t stunned when a brand new buck reveals up on the property throughout canine season.

Orders’ model of canine looking permits him and his membership to leap bedded deer which have been closely pressured. These bucks probably wouldn’t be caught shifting throughout daytime in any other case. It’s logical to suppose that stress from canines may make bucks much more nocturnal. But this hasn’t been the case for Smathers, who spends about half his time looking public land that will get hammered by canine hunters each season. In truth, lots of his mature bucks had been taken throughout canine season or shortly after it. Like Orders, he’s seen that more often than not, bucks will present up shortly after the canines are gone. While these mature bucks may not daylight in the course of a meals plot, they’re nonetheless shifting, simply in thicker cowl, Smathers says.

Adapting Hunting Strategies

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A hunter waits for canines to cross a street. Adam Moore

You don’t have to affix a deer canine membership to get in on the motion. If you’re looking public floor, and also you resolve to stay it out when the canine hunters roll up, be sure you’re at a protected distance from different hunters and carrying blaze orange. Then, observe the following pointers. 

Hunt from the bottom. If there was ever a time to ditch your treestand or saddle, it’s now. Being caught in a tree limits your possibilities of getting a shot. But should you’re looking from the bottom, you’ll be able to shortly change place as wanted. 

Cover probably escape routes. Deer favor the trail of least resistance. This is particularly true with canines on their path. Deer will sometimes observe their most well-liked journey routes when jumped. But as an alternative of bed-to-food journey, deal with bed-to-bed journey. The deer are headed for extra cowl, what’s the quickest route for them? That’s the place it’s essential setup.

Use terrain options. You can use pure pinch factors like saddles, creek or river crossings, and ridge programs to your benefit. You can discover these with OnX or HuntStand after which fine-tune your setup when you’re there in individual. Approach these areas equally to how you’ll treestand hunt them however with extra flexibility to your setup. 

Play the wind. Even although they transfer based mostly on the place the canines bump them, you’ll be able to guess deer, particularly mature bucks, will nonetheless use the wind to their favor. If you’re upwind of the deer, you’re unlikely to get a shot earlier than they detect you.

Hunt the backdoor. Dog looking crews usually consult with an unlikely or underrated journey route that because the “backdoor.” Mature bucks like to sneak out by means of the backdoor. If you’re looking a neighboring property and listen to the canines working parallel and even away from you, don’t depart simply but. If a mature buck is bedded close to different deer that the canines leap, they’ll usually grasp tight till the commotion passes after which slip out reverse or perpendicular to the remainder of the deer to go for various cowl. If doable, place your self between “the backdoor” and the subsequent potential bedding space. 

Just get on the market. If you already adhere to the “you can’t kill them from the couch” method, this additionally applies throughout deer canine season. Adapting your looking plan is at all times a greater technique than sitting at residence. And should you’re fortunate, it would finish with a buck heading straight to your setup.

Limestone Traditions

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The Limestone camp home. Adam Moore

The day I joined Orders for one in every of Limestone’s hunts, the canines jumped a number of does, however nobody shot. While Orders isn’t towards taking pictures does this time of yr, particularly for first timers, there’s an understanding that the membership prefers to carry out for bucks. Even although no tags had been punched, I nonetheless obtained to listen to the canines bark see all of the motion of a hunt effectively run. 

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The subsequent day, Orders and his crew did tag a buck and the shot a number of extra earlier than the season ended. With simply 14 days (minus just a few for dangerous climate) Limestone’s success charges are a factor to admire, particularly when you think about that they solely run half days. The membership imposes a strict 12 p.m. deadline on itself, versus conducting all day runs like plenty of different hunters may. Letting the property relaxation is essential to their success, which is simply one of many many classes they’ve realized by means of years of working canines. One of the important thing tenets that Orders and his son observe is to drop every little thing with a purpose to catch canines earlier than they chase deer off the property. This philosophy not solely leaves the membership in good standing with surrounding golf equipment and landowners, it’s even helped them land just a few further spots to run.

Unfortunately, not all deer canine hunters maintain themselves to this normal, and most of us can solely watch whereas howling beagles run deer by means of our setups. But like all hunt, adapting is usually the important thing to discovering success. So the subsequent time you hear the canines leap a deer in your space, stick it out. A giant buck could possibly be headed your approach. 



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