Ask an Outsider: My good friend is a superb journey associate, however he’s flaky. What ought to I do? 

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Ask an Outsider: My good friend is a superb journey associate, however he’s flaky. What ought to I do? 


Welcome to Ask an Outsider. We are right here to reply your most urgent questions on having fun with time outdoors, like make outdoorsy pals, recommendations on going No. 2 within the woods, or reconcile a special threat tolerance with a associate. Our recommendation givers are specialists from each inside and outdoors the co-op who draw from their very own expertise and information to assist inform yours.

To reply this column, we tapped REI Co-op Member Sidney Baptista, who based the Boston-based PIONEERS Run Crew in 2017 to create group and later created PYNRS Performance Streetwear. He shares his response.

We’d additionally like to listen to the way you’d strategy this case—scroll to the top to weigh in. 

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Dear Outsider, 

I’ve a great good friend I like to backpack, hike and camp with. We’ve recognized one another for a very long time and have gone on many out of doors adventures collectively. He tells humorous tales, surprises our group with connoisseur treats, and is all the time the primary to help when one thing goes improper. 

There’s only one drawback: He’s flaky. He’ll decide to a bunch journey however present up late or under no circumstances. Sometimes, he’ll ask to hitch in on the final minute after our plans are set. We accommodate him as a result of our outings aren’t the identical with out him. But, more and more, I’ve grow to be resentful. What ought to I do? 

Val M., REI Co-op Member since 2020


Dear Val,

Hello! Thanks for writing in and sorry to listen to about your tenting conundrum. This is a problem I’ve handled personally, and I’m positive many others can relate.  

My first piece of recommendation could seem apparent, however typically the best options are straightforward to miss: Try speaking along with your good friend concerning the state of affairs. Based on what you’ve written, it seems like your good friend is a extremely nice man. He has good power, is tremendous useful and other people wish to be round him. Even when he’s late or canceling plans, the group is genuinely excited when he does present up. Because of this, it’s attainable he’s oblivious to the disruption that he creates, or doesn’t notice the total extent of it. He might even have grown accustomed to dropping out and in of plans at this level.  

An trustworthy dialog may go a great distance in opening his eyes and serving to him be extra considerate about making—and sticking to—commitments sooner or later. No one desires to really feel like a burden or a nuisance, so bringing consciousness to the state of affairs is a superb first step.  

Try broaching the subject whereas experiencing the outside collectively. Start by highlighting how nice a time you might be having and that you simply need to proceed doing joint journeys with him. Then ease into the subject of planning. Tell him that it may be traumatic when folks cancel plans or be a part of a visit on the final minute. Talk concerning the significance of getting everybody on the identical web page for each logistical and security causes. This will help you present your good friend with some perception into your personal perspective, and likewise give him an opportunity to share his.  

My different piece of recommendation could be to examine in with your self to determine the place your boundaries and your tolerance for this sort of conduct lie. There is an actual risk that even when you do have a dialog along with your good friend, he might not change—or might not change as a lot as you or the group would love. This may simply be how your good friend operates.  

You talked about that you’ve got already begun to really feel resentful. To stop this from rising to some extent of no return, take into consideration how, when and what you invite him to sooner or later. For instance, you may select to solely invite him on journeys during which the plans wouldn’t be dramatically altered by whether or not or not he exhibits up. You may do your greatest to bypass circumstances that contain splitting prices evenly amongst members and keep away from placing him in control of bringing essential provides that the group can be counting on, equivalent to meals, survival gear or a shared tent.  

Set planning deadlines and maintain your good friend to them. If he confirms however backs out after the deadline has handed, you may contemplate leaving him off the invite in your subsequent tour. If he tries to hitch late after the deadline has handed, let him know that it sadly can’t be accommodated this time however that you may be positive to let him learn about your subsequent journey. This might really feel unnatural within the quick time period provided that it’s outdoors the scope of how your relationship at the moment exists. However, in the long run, it will provide you with extra reasonable expectations of your good friend, make planning extra predictable and assist maintain your resentment at bay.  

Hopefully, the following tips result in some constructive adjustments for you, your good friend and your group journeys. Best of luck and comfortable trails! 

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