Ask an Outsider: My good friend is a superb journey accomplice, however he’s flaky. What ought to I do? 

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Ask an Outsider: My good friend is a superb journey accomplice, however he’s flaky. What ought to I do? 


Welcome to Ask an Outsider. We are right here to reply your most urgent questions on having fun with time exterior, like tips on how to make outdoorsy buddies, tips about going No. 2 within the woods, or tips on how to reconcile a special danger tolerance with a accomplice. Our recommendation givers are specialists from each inside and out of doors the co-op who draw from their very own expertise and data to assist inform yours.

To reply this column, we tapped REI Co-op Member Sidney Baptista, who based the Boston-based PIONEERS Run Crew in 2017 to create neighborhood and later created PYNRS Performance Streetwear. He shares his response.

We’d additionally like to listen to the way you’d strategy this example—scroll to the top to weigh in. 

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Dear Outsider, 

I’ve a great good friend I like to backpack, hike and camp with. We’ve identified one another for a very long time and have gone on many out of doors adventures collectively. He tells humorous tales, surprises our group with gourmand treats, and is all the time the primary to help when one thing goes unsuitable. 

There’s only one downside: He’s flaky. He’ll decide to a bunch journey however present up late or under no circumstances. Sometimes, he’ll ask to affix in on the final minute after our plans are set. We accommodate him as a result of our outings aren’t the identical with out him. But, more and more, I’ve develop into resentful. What ought to I do? 

Val M., REI Co-op Member since 2020


Dear Val,

Hello! Thanks for writing in and sorry to listen to about your tenting conundrum. This is a problem I’ve handled personally, and I’m certain many others can relate.  

My first piece of recommendation could appear apparent, however typically the only options are simple to miss: Try speaking together with your good friend in regards to the scenario. Based on what you’ve written, it feels like your good friend is a extremely nice man. He has good vitality, is tremendous useful and other people wish to be round him. Even when he’s late or canceling plans, the group is genuinely excited when he does present up. Because of this, it’s attainable he’s oblivious to the disruption that he creates, or doesn’t understand the complete extent of it. He could even have grown accustomed to dropping out and in of plans at this level.  

An trustworthy dialog may go a great distance in opening his eyes and serving to him be extra considerate about making—and sticking to—commitments sooner or later. No one desires to really feel like a burden or a nuisance, so bringing consciousness to the scenario is a superb first step.  

Try broaching the subject whereas experiencing the outside collectively. Start by highlighting how nice a time you might be having and that you just wish to proceed doing joint journeys with him. Then ease into the subject of planning. Tell him that it may be nerve-racking when individuals cancel plans or be part of a visit on the final minute. Talk in regards to the significance of getting everybody on the identical web page for each logistical and security causes. This will help you present your good friend with some perception into your personal perspective, and in addition give him an opportunity to share his.  

My different piece of recommendation can be to verify in with your self to determine the place your boundaries and your tolerance for this sort of habits lie. There is an actual risk that even if you happen to do have a dialog together with your good friend, he could not change—or could not change as a lot as you or the group would really like. This may simply be how your good friend operates.  

You talked about that you’ve already begun to really feel resentful. To forestall this from rising to a degree of no return, take into consideration how, when and what you invite him to sooner or later. For instance, you might select to solely invite him on journeys wherein the plans wouldn’t be dramatically altered by whether or not or not he exhibits up. You may do your finest to bypass circumstances that contain splitting prices evenly amongst members and keep away from placing him answerable for bringing essential provides that the group might be counting on, comparable to meals, survival gear or a shared tent.  

Set planning deadlines and maintain your good friend to them. If he confirms however backs out after the deadline has handed, you might take into account leaving him off the invite on your subsequent tour. If he tries to affix late after the deadline has handed, let him know that it sadly can’t be accommodated this time however that you’ll be certain to let him find out about your subsequent journey. This could really feel unnatural within the brief time period on condition that it’s exterior the scope of how your relationship at present exists. However, in the long run, it provides you with extra real looking expectations of your good friend, make planning extra predictable and assist hold your resentment at bay.  

Hopefully, the following tips result in some constructive modifications for you, your good friend and your group journeys. Best of luck and joyful trails! 

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